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September 16, 2007



oops I just registered tcattorney.com

im a bad cybersquatter

Ed Keay-Smith

What the???!!!

Where and when did this Professor Goldman guy do his research for that article?

It is really getting on my nerves the amount of articles being written these days by supposed "professionals" that cannot distinguish the difference between "generic domain names" and "cybersquating".

If they spent more than 5 minutes on the research they would maybe, just maybe GET IT!

I think what you said Frank about missing the boat and people making more money than he does from domain names may be hard to swallow.

Onwards and upwards I say!


Ed Keay-Smith

Bill Henson

Awesome, AWESOME read Frank. It should be required reading by everyone before they're allowed on the internet.

Sahar Sarid

Nicely said Professor Schilling :)


Speaking about whether people will continually type in domain name in address bar, my wife has actually stopped doing it since she discovered she can just type in her search term in the address bar (not search bar) without .com, and her Firefox browser will take her to her desired site (which is the top site of the google search result on that term).

For example if she types "verizon" in address bar, browser takes her to verizon.com.

I'm not sure about the behaviour of other browsers, but I do think this feature of firefox is a threat to type-in traffic.

Love to know your thoughts on this.



At least partially- some of what he says has some ground. Many users use search boxes for their "type-in" needs as opposed to typing straight in the address bar. If a parked domain can't be found this way, this class of type-ins are gone... unless the user goes back to basics which may or may not be the case. Some people give a lot of credit to the searched results and if a domain search results in nothing, they may conclude it doesn't exist.

There is a recent thread in dnforum where some domainers are reporting loss of traffic and this could possibly be tied to not being able to find their domains in search engines anymore. Or at least in the first spot, as would be the case for a developed site (everything else being equal).

Coincidence in reporting this article as these changes are taking place?


This educator needs some education.


john n

Since firefox is an open source browser, maybe some developers can contribute to it and stress the importance of user intent.

What I mean is, if a user types a FQDN into the search bar, firefox should go out to DNS FIRST, and then to google if the name does not exist in DNS.

I bet someone could convince the mozilla foundation that this would be what the user wants.

Patrick McDermott

"The fact that many existing trademark holders world-wide missed the opportunity of their lifetime (and their children's lifetime) to be first-to-register generic domain names similar to their marks does not give them the ability to rewrite history and unseat those who saw what they didn't."

Unfortunately,Frank,sometimes history does get rewritten and a generic domain holder gets unseated.

Recent case in point: Elders.com

See here:

And back in March 2007, Pirelli Tire company
unseated the holder of the generic domain:

Pirelli has a TM for PZero and stated in their filing:

" Respondent’s domain name is confusingly similar to Complainant’s PZERO mark.".

Incredibly the sole arbitrator conluded that:

"Respondent’s disputed domain name contains the dominant portion of Complainant’s PZERO mark. The disputed domain name eliminates the letter “p” and adds the generic top-level domain (“gTLD”) “.org.” The Panel finds that elimination of a single letter from a protected mark, as well as the addition of a gTLD, fails to sufficiently preclude a finding of confusing similarity in the disputed domain name with the (trade) mark"

Sadly, Pirelli was awarded the zero.org domain primarily because the Respondent made
no defense.


At the same time Pirelli went after zero.us.

This time,DN Lawyer,John Berryhill defended
the domain for the Respondent and transfer of domain to Complainant was denied.

But here are some absurd claims from Pirelli's filing:

"there is no reasonable possibility that the domain name was selected by respondent for any purpose other than a brazen attempt to create a likelihood of confusion with complainant's mark"


"zero.us is "identical or confusingly similar" to its "pzero" and "zero" trademarks..."

and even more absurd

""The zero.us domain name appropriates a common misspelling of complainant's zero and pzero marks in its entirety"

zero...is a misspelling of zero?

zero...is a misspelling of PZero?


Also that month, John Berryhill defended the generic domain 187.com from being "stolen".


Be careful out there!


***FS*** Great points Patrick ..


I once knew a millionaire who always said "thank God I never went to college". Now I know what he meant. I think of what Paul Simon once wrote...."when I think of all the crap I learned in high school, it's a wonder I can think at all".

This "professor" is one piece of cake. I think, Frank, you (or one of your brethren) should call this radio show host and give him little education and then do a one on one with the professor. I wouldn't miss that for the world.

Patrick McDermott

"Are all rap musicians gangsters?"

Gangsters? Not possible!

But they could all be gangstas.

Here's some fun for you Frank!

From: The Original Gangsta Name Generator

"So, you want a gangsta name, huh, sucka?

Type in your current boring-ass name and be re-dubbed:"

Old name: Frank Schilling

"I now dub your ass:
Slimy Pud"

Hey! Don't shoot the messenger. :-)

Link to The Original Gangsta Name Generator:


Patrick (from Da Bronx)

Gangsta Name Generator

"Old name: Patrick

I now dub your ass:
Old Fool Rat Snatch"

Frank ,I'll trade you "Old Fool Rat Snatch"
for "Slimy Pud".

I think Slimy Pud is a better domain name -
and shorter!

And available for Regging!

Patrick (aka Old Fool Rat Snatch)

Todd Mintz

Frank, I got an email inviting me to go on the show to defend domainers since they must have read some of the domain-related articles I've been writing recently. I declined...however, he is looking for the domainers point of view and if you want to do it, I'll forward you the contact information.


Well mang, not all of us developers are Robber Barrons ;)

Jim Fleming

In a strange ironic twist, Microsoft (with all their legal experts) may end up being the big hero to save people from a lot of the nonsense.

If you have not looked at the Peer Name Resolution Protocol (PNRP) that ships with Windows Vista, you should.

PNRP in a nut-shell is a system that allows users to select names and have those names "registered" in a global registry created by the global network of Windows Vista machines. There is no central mainframe Registry company or QUANGO regulator (travel club) collecting 25 cents for each name.

It gets better, if a SOHO business wants to jump thru some Microsoft hoops they can get a .COM name for FREE, including HOSTING!!!
This is part of the Microsoft Office-Lite FREE offer to try to get people to use their office applications.

For people that look at everything as some evil corporate scheme to pull them into a walled garden to dominate them, they may find that their .COM name is now part of the Microsoft empire. That may actually be good. They may have some "protection" in that walled garden.

By the way, the Microsoft infrastructure is
apparently backed up by the major Australian
players. Isn't it strange that the CEO of
ICANN is from Australia.

When you look at the really big picture and
the expanding address space, people may
begin to see that there could be millions
of these "walled-gardens". Consumers and
small businesses may find that they really
like the walled-garden that Microsoft has
created. How can they argue with FREE ?

At some point toll-gates could of course
be quickly constructed and only the members
of the walled-garden would make it past
the Gates (no pun intended). Again, that
community may actually like the stability of
the entire solution. It has been very quietly
delivered via Windows Vista and the remote
update features allow more additions to come.

If enough people move to what appears to be
a stable, safe, integrated, leading-edge,
walled-garden "platform" the old .NET could
quickly melt away, or only be used by people
who are viewed as fringe and who spend no
money. In true Microsoft fashion, they may
have the dominant path to lead consumers to
their safe haven and away from the nutty
professors and their globe-trotting Quangos.

Consumers seem to just want things that
work and they like things that are FREE.
It is ironic that all of the various
non-profits and not-for-profit Quangos
provide nothing for FREE, except maybe a
seat at one of the their boring meetings
where they play out their scripted charades.
How much longer can rational humans fall
for that nonsense ?

Windows Vista has many of the pieces needed
to migrate users to a brave new world.
Existing Domainers may find that they are
not part of that world. Oooops

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